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Money to Burn?

Post by Clarkey » 23 Apr 2019, 23:22

Is there anyone on here with money to burn who could buy one of these and let me have a go please? If only Rump wasn't buying a house, I think that'd be my best bet, lol

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Post by cupidstunt » 24 Apr 2019, 12:15

Too fast for him.
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Post by Cabernet » 24 Apr 2019, 22:43

Was reading an article on Tesla early. The life span on the batteries is @94,000 miles. The CO2 emissions of a 2.0l diesel is less over the same distance than those used just to make batteries, let-alone recharging them.
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Post by Clarkey » 25 Apr 2019, 16:41

Cabernet wrote:Was reading an article on Tesla early. The life span on the batteries is @94,000 miles. The CO2 emissions of a 2.0l diesel is less over the same distance than those used just to make batteries, let-alone recharging them.
I was sent the same article and gotta call bullshit on it I'm afraid

Firstly I'd like to know where they've got 94k from, which is where they base much of their calculation. Tesla batteries have been found to have over 90% capacity after 160k, so to say 94k lifespan is just not true.

The Nissan Leaf, which doesn't have as advanced battery tech and are much smaller (which greatly reduces original energy costs in their 'calculation') have apparently had many taxi's with over 200k. They seem to drop below 90% original capacity at about 120k

More biased about the article is that it counts the full lifecycle of the EV including the manufacture of the battery AND use of fossil fuels for electricity, but focus only on tailpipe emissions for the ICE engine which discounts the significant energy costs of refining and delivering the fuel

Even ignoring that, they then base their calculations on 100% of the electricity used in the EV being generated by fossil fuel which again just isn't the reality in many (probably most) cases - I'm on a 100% renewable tariff for example, and generate enough spare solar energy for about 6k a year... the general energy mix even at rapid chargers is very far from their claims

They ignore that when the battery has reached end of life it can simply be reused as home storage (which further leverages renewable energy) or recycled into new batteries

All of the above (ignoring end to end for ICE, fossil fuel generation and delivery energy costs, energy mix realistically used in ev, battery recycling, many batteries being smaller than Tesla at the moment, and 94k not being true basis for calculation) means the figures produced are so far from the truth it makes the article fairly worthless imo, and I'd strongly advise you to disregard it and its conclusions

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Post by Cabernet » 25 Apr 2019, 19:13

cupidstunt wrote:
24 Apr 2019, 12:15
Too fast for him.
Psst! Been fishing recently?
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Post by Clarkey » 25 Apr 2019, 19:34

Just saw this on Twitter, quite a claim, the BMW M3 is a beast... The Tesla Model 3 Performance would be in my lottery win garage for sureImage

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Post by cupidstunt » 25 Apr 2019, 20:07

Cabernet wrote:
25 Apr 2019, 19:13
cupidstunt wrote:
24 Apr 2019, 12:15
Too fast for him.
Psst! Been fishing recently?
No not yet just Lurking. :D
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Post by Stumoores » 27 Apr 2019, 11:34

Dave Angel eco warrior
Tesla towers are what we should be building,
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Post by lee » 28 Apr 2019, 12:34

Stumoores wrote:Dave Angel eco warrior Image
Tesla towers are what we should be building,
Fishing season ain’t till the glorious 16th June BTW


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