Blood biker stratergy puts lives at risk.

[darthsmidge]

Well, the keystone wannabe's can't be seen on something that looks less than perfect can they?

Whats a keystone?

[Cabernet]

Well, the keystone wannabe's can't be seen on something that looks less than perfect can they?

Whats a keystone?

In this context see.
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[Loose Sprockets]

Judging from your firmly held belief, i presume, should the worst come to worst (god forbid it happens to any of us), you'd refuse blood delivered by a blood biker on principle? There are plenty of services that should be provided by the government, but you can almost guarantee that the company that would win the contract to deliver blood would in some way, shape or form, be owned or have an MP or fatcat as a majority shareholder, at which point the cost of the contract would be greatly inflated, paid for of course by yourself and other taxpayers. This is an unneeded attack on a well meaning group of individuals. It takes baiting to a whole new low. By your logic the air ambulance and St johns ambulance are also in the same category.

[SMUDGER]

Oh fuck the whole courier thing is coming

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[Cabernet]

By your logic the air ambulance and St johns ambulance are also in the same category.

OK, lets look at the Air Ambulance.

Helicopter pilots employed in the emergency medical services and medical transportation industries earned salaries ranging from £31,487 to £48,256 per year, according to a PayScale survey of 302 helicopter pilots in all industries. This was slightly lower than the £33,887 to £53,173 earned annually by the middle 50 per cent of all helicopter pilots.

According to the National Registry of Emergency Medical Technicians, the national average salary for a paramedic is £28,300, as of 2005. In 2009, the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) reported that 75 per cent of paramedics earned an annual salary of £25,500. Salary for air ambulance paramedics can vary depending on where they work, their experience and attainment of specialised training.

So here we have the Air Ambulance charity that actually employs people to carry out the work.

Blood bikers doing a nominal number of hours on mass collectively put vocational riders out of work. If the Blood Biker charity negotiated and funded compassionate contracts through courier firms supporting vocational riders or employed vocational riders directly, I would be behind the charity 100%.

As it is, it's just an excuse for some middle aged men to escape from the Mrs' clutches on the self delusion and illusion of nobility to others and enjoy a bit of Walter Mitty life.

[Soviet]

[Loose Sprockets]

By your logic the air ambulance and St johns ambulance are also in the same category.

OK, lets look at the Air Ambulance.

Helicopter pilots employed in the emergency medical services and medical transportation industries earned salaries ranging from £31,487 to £48,256 per year, according to a PayScale survey of 302 helicopter pilots in all industries. This was slightly lower than the £33,887 to £53,173 earned annually by the middle 50 per cent of all helicopter pilots.

According to the National Registry of Emergency Medical Technicians, the national average salary for a paramedic is £28,300, as of 2005. In 2009, the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) reported that 75 per cent of paramedics earned an annual salary of £25,500. Salary for air ambulance paramedics can vary depending on where they work, their experience and attainment of specialised training.

So here we have the Air Ambulance charity that actually employs people to carry out the work.

Blood bikers doing a nominal number of hours on mass collectively put vocational riders out of work. If the Blood Biker charity negotiated and funded compassionate contracts through courier firms supporting vocational riders or employed vocational riders directly, I would be the charity 100%.

As it is, it's just an excuse for some middle aged men to escape from the Mrs' clutches on the self delusion and illusion of nobility to others and enjoy a bit of Walter Mitty life.

How dare they go around helping save people's lives for free when there could be a profit in it for someone, it's an absolute disgrace. Would you like some vinegar with that chip?

[Dave]

Nice little debate in here , I get to speak to these blood bike riders quite frequently. We train them to advanced std before they can sign on with them. They are just normal riders with normal bikes like all the rest of us.

They ride well into the night in all weathers using there own machines sometimes, for nothing but a free cup of tea now and then .

You gotta have respect for someone like that .

[Occams Razor]

Playing devil's advocate a bit here, not sure Cab's presented the argument the way I would but there's a good point made.
Should such a vital service rely completely on volunteers? If there's nobody available to do a run where's the fallback? I'd guess it'd be an ambulance or paramedic thereby taking another emergency vehicle out of commission for a period.
Regardless of whether this is a service run by volunteers there's still a constant cost.
If as Cab's suggestion this was run by a national courier company, there could be guaranteed response and service times, national guaranteed service and the infrastructure and cost of the service could be removed with payment only when the service demands.

[Pacuk]

If it was funded by the government it would have to be put up for company's to bid for the contract, inevitably the cheapest would win and so the service would reflect the price.. If I or my family were waiting for vital blood i'f much rather it be in transit with a nice new bike and somebody who cares enough to do it for free than a courier to who it's just another job on a beat up cb500 or the like..


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