Newish car choice
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I think you're spot on.lee wrote:I think you should buy what you want and we shouldn't be preaching.
Yolo.
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What are the likely running costs of the two? Just curious as I've never looked at 4x4's not my thing.
I remember a lad at work on about silly tyre prices for a Range Rover?, don't know if it was a newer one or not, wasn't really listening.
I remember a lad at work on about silly tyre prices for a Range Rover?, don't know if it was a newer one or not, wasn't really listening.
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If you have to ask about running costs, you probably can't afford it! ha ha hamarkc wrote:What are the likely running costs of the two? Just curious as I've never looked at 4x4's not my thing.
I remember a lad at work on about silly tyre prices for a Range Rover?, don't know if it was a newer one or not, wasn't really listening.
PS I can't afford it either!
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Ha!, that's true.pch1 wrote:If you have to ask about running costs, you probably can't afford it! ha ha hamarkc wrote:What are the likely running costs of the two? Just curious as I've never looked at 4x4's not my thing.
I remember a lad at work on about silly tyre prices for a Range Rover?, don't know if it was a newer one or not, wasn't really listening.
PS I can't afford it either!
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If you're going for an older one then go for the X5. Plus if it's not a daily driver go for the petrol rather than the diesel - it's a much less complicated engine with less to go wrong. The V8s are lovely engines but can be expensive when there's a problem so my suggestion is go for the 3 litre (straight 6) petrol X5. The auto gearboxes are good but again expensive if they go, but the manuals are rarer. You have to worry about dual mass flywheels on the manuals (which cost around £8-900 fitted when they go) but if the auto box needs a rebuild then you'll get no change out of £1,500. MPG and 0-60 are almost identical between autos and manuals though.
So long as maintenance has been meticulous the X5 is by far your best bet. I wouldn't touch a 10 year old Range Rover with a shitty stick though - the potential costs are too high. I have a client with a 7 year old one that had a gearbox problem. The gearbox is electronically controlled and the only place that could fix it was a main dealer. The dealer basically charged them £2,500 to refresh the software. They didn't replace any hardware at all.
just remember that you're buying what was a £50,000 vehicle. It might be cheap to buy but maintenance costs can reflect the original cost of the vehicle, not its current value. You can pick up a sub-80k 05 3.0 petrol X5 for £6-7k in very nice condition. There's even a few with £2k LPG kits fitted if you're bothered about running costs (but check the installation is good quality by a reputable place).
So long as maintenance has been meticulous the X5 is by far your best bet. I wouldn't touch a 10 year old Range Rover with a shitty stick though - the potential costs are too high. I have a client with a 7 year old one that had a gearbox problem. The gearbox is electronically controlled and the only place that could fix it was a main dealer. The dealer basically charged them £2,500 to refresh the software. They didn't replace any hardware at all.
just remember that you're buying what was a £50,000 vehicle. It might be cheap to buy but maintenance costs can reflect the original cost of the vehicle, not its current value. You can pick up a sub-80k 05 3.0 petrol X5 for £6-7k in very nice condition. There's even a few with £2k LPG kits fitted if you're bothered about running costs (but check the installation is good quality by a reputable place).
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Another thing to consider is that there are far more X5s on the road (domestically and internationally) than RRs. That means the used parts market is much better value, so if you're unfortunate and cop for a big problem (like a gearbox) then an alternative option is to swap the old one straight out for a used box from a breakers.
Jim's words of wisdom:
We're here for a good time, not a long time.
The power to change your life comes from taking total responsibility for it.
We're here for a good time, not a long time.
The power to change your life comes from taking total responsibility for it.
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He could have bought a nice mercedes off you.markc wrote:What are the likely running costs of the two? Just curious as I've never looked at 4x4's not my thing.
I remember a lad at work on about silly tyre prices for a Range Rover?, don't know if it was a newer one or not, wasn't really listening.
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Jim has nailed that to a tee.
If you are sick of driving old shonkers why not consider a personal lease ? get something like a nissan cashcow ow what ever they are if looking for a large type car thing. a couple of hundred quid a month for 2 years might be more suitable.
I personally would touch anything like a X5 or range rover in the 5 - 10k price range. eye watering repair bills and you cannot skimp on these things like your 500 quid astra and get away with it.
Going back to my R32 discussion and that's a good example. there are alot of younger folk buying R32's because they are sub 10k to buy, and they forget about the servicing costs, fuel bill, road tax and seem to think spending a grand on some shit wheels, cheap tyres and coil over back breaking suspension is money well spent then wonder why the car they bought for 10k they cant sell for 8k, and had they fitted quality tyres, another service then the value would be the same as they paid.
in short i tend to avoid anything modded or being sold by a fuckwit chav no matter how cheap.
If you are sick of driving old shonkers why not consider a personal lease ? get something like a nissan cashcow ow what ever they are if looking for a large type car thing. a couple of hundred quid a month for 2 years might be more suitable.
I personally would touch anything like a X5 or range rover in the 5 - 10k price range. eye watering repair bills and you cannot skimp on these things like your 500 quid astra and get away with it.
Going back to my R32 discussion and that's a good example. there are alot of younger folk buying R32's because they are sub 10k to buy, and they forget about the servicing costs, fuel bill, road tax and seem to think spending a grand on some shit wheels, cheap tyres and coil over back breaking suspension is money well spent then wonder why the car they bought for 10k they cant sell for 8k, and had they fitted quality tyres, another service then the value would be the same as they paid.
in short i tend to avoid anything modded or being sold by a fuckwit chav no matter how cheap.
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My mate in work has a range rover, his son works for a range rover specialist garage and has told him to get shut asap and not to bother again. They are money pits. He had a mitsubish shogun beforehand and wants it back. Says there is no point having a big comfy RR that doesn't work properly, when you can have a big comfy shogun that does work for less money
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And if you just want a big car that will run, get an old volvo estate
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